लौ सुन्नुहोस ताजा खबर - तात्तातो खबर आजैको खबर

 too hot a topic! Gentelman,

well I just have to say few things, ..... I wanted to write something but words just got lost.

>Kharibot ley margar haru ko testo bathwai garda chahi

>uha tapai ko arya khas mitra, tara bahunbad mathi prasna

>uttahune haru chahi racist?

 

स्याङ्जाली बन्धु,

मैले “बाहुनवाद”, “मगरवाद” देखि सबै जातीय-विद्वेषवादी भावना र शब्दावलीप्रति विमती जनाएपछि खरीबोट र तपाई दुवै जनाको बराबर आलोचना गरें त, गरीनँ ?

र वास्तवमा मैले भकुण्डो तपाईको कोर्टमा छाडेको थिएँ, तपाई लगायत डोर बहादुर बिष्टजी र हाल अति सक्रिय जातीय संघीयतावादी प्राध्यापकहरुले प्रयोग गरिरहनुभएको jargon (‘बाहुनवाद’) सम्पूर्ण बाहुन समुदायकै अपमान गर्ने derogatory शब्दावली हो र नेपालमा केही समयमै बन्ने आसा गरिएको anti-defamation कानूनले यस शब्दलाई अग्राह्य बनाउनेछ र जसले गर्दा तपाईहरुको साहित्य रद्धीको टोकरीका पुग्नेछ भनेर दावी समेत गरेर ।

खोई त भकुण्डो फर्काएको ?

अब अर्को पुरानो बुँदा: वञ्चनाको तथ्यांक । जुन मैले 90% आर्थिक (वर्गीय) स्वरुपको छ, 10% जातीय स्वरुपको छ भनेर दावी गरेको । र खरीबोटले 10% भन्दा पनि कम छ भनेर टिप्पणी गरेको ।

पहिले तपाईले यस तथ्यांकको श्रोत सोध्नुभयो । अहिले यसलाई phantom statistic भन्नुभयो ।

>tyo tapai ko phantom statistic jastai hoki – kuni?

श्रोतको कुरा भन्दा पहिले तपाईको मतको बारेमा कुरा गरौं है ? विश्वास गर्नुस्, यो सबैको लागि चाखलाग्दो छलफल हुनेछ ।

खास तपाईको मत/अनुमान के हो ?

नेपाली समाजमा विद्यमान अवसरको असमानताको कति प्रतिशत जातीय स्वरुपको होला त ?

10% भन्दा बढी हो ?

तपाई तपाईको अनुमान (र छ भने तथ्यांक नै) बताउनुहोस्, म तपाईलाई मेरो दावीको आधार र तथ्यांकको श्रोत बताउनेछु ।

यो सानो नाटकबाजी गर्नुको कारण छ । त्यो र बाँकी जवाफ अर्को खेपमा ।

यति चाही भनिहालुँ, यदि तपाई 10%  भन्दा बढी जातीय स्वरुपको छ भनेर सोच्नुहुन्छ भने तपाई भन्दा बढी सही त खरीबोटजी नै हुनुहुन्छ ।

 

Nepe

what the hell this magar is talking? trying to be a superior ledo..anyway magar is magar, no doubt, everyone knows who they are in general and this syanjhali magar in particular... 

ledo magar don't try to grade my english as you r not my english teacher. who the u motherf..ker trying to discourage me. I know I am not native speaker of english language so I am not worried about it but why u the disc of dick worried bout it??????

kahribot - u said, everyone knows how magars are in general? could u elaborate on this? i have never heard anything bad but solid reputation of magars. check history.

magar dai = i have been doing some serious study on Nepal's history lately and more i read more my head bows to magar clan. especially the bravery they showed during Anglo-Gorkha war where 500-600 magars including women and children sacrificed their lives to honor our freedom. not to forget how King Prithivi unfied Nepal. without them, it is possible there would have no Nepal today.

 

 

 

Why we discussing for the cast system yar, let it go.. it's outdated now. Lets think we are all Nepali, we have two cast; male female and one religion - Humanity.

i have a dream that one day all Nepalese are judged by the content of their character not by their cast.

Kharibot,

There is very little that can be done for an unrepentant racist like you. But you are more than that; you are a racist with an appalling grasp of the “Inglis” language. A charitable case like you really needs to grow up and be more grateful for the help that is on hand. Now practice some more you wretch and stop putting your parents to shame.

Now i could see your "inglis" ledo, my goodness that you unvieled your real countenance. who knows tomorrow but your scandalous thought indicates your lunacy reflecting today might ruin your tomorrow. No matter, how you demo yourself  but your version on racism shows that you are a social terror. Our beloved country is in between the devil and the deep blue sea so I personally request you not to ruin our social integrity. wherever you go history would not excuse like you people. ask yourself and try to find out who is actually responsible for this adverse fortune of our community, caste system or socio-economic injustice. we have not yet won, however, we must keep trying so save our motherland. I am pretty sure we are going to win this battle against several "Benedict Arnold" and you are one of them.

now w i could see your "inglis" ledo, my goodness that you unvieled your real countenance. who knows tomorrow but your scandalous thought indicates your lunacy reflecting today might ruin your tomorrow. No matter, how you demo yourself  but your version on racism shows that you are a social terror. Our beloved country is in between the devil and the deep blue sea so I personally request you not to ruin our social integrity. wherever you go history would not excuse like you people. ask yourself and try to find out who is actually responsible for this adverse fortune of our community, caste system or socio-economic injustice. we have not yet won, however, we must keep trying so save our motherland. I am pretty sure we are going to win this battle against several "Benedict Arnold" and you are one of them.

"sabailai chetana bhaya"

I think brahminism in Nepal is like Al-qaedaism and talibanism in muslim religion, Brahminism is like zionism in christian and this extremely dangerous Brahminism in nepal is obliterating our harmony and well-being. This brahminism is inciting social unrest and one of the main reason why we nepali are living a life of a beggar in this 21st century.

Nepal's history is similar to south africa's history and I believe the day will come that the justice will prevail in our motheland and brahminism will disappear with no traces like apartheid did in south africa.

I strong believe that people like kharibot who incites racism should have only one place to live thats prison. kharibot your so called brahminism ( I call it 3dharkeism) is gradually losing its ground as more and more magars are sneaking to power of modern nepal.

"Down to 3dharkeism and long live hamonious Nepal".

 

hahahaha another terrorist appeared...chickens come  home to roost!!!!

Kharibot, your stupidity seems to have no boundry. I knew it would be foolish to deal with a fool like you. you deserve a kick that flattens your harlequin-nose. And once again I proudly say " down with your brahminism and long live harmonious, properous nepal with vibrant political pluralism".

Tell me a smart got stupid  or a stupid got smart here. First there is a point in making that maoist is pulling out a race card which definitely creates a obstacle in giving a logical conclusion to the ongoing peace process. 

it is wrong to play racial card for sum vested interests of few but also it is not to b ignored without finding n implementing proper solutions as to address these socio-political imbalance and injustice. the history of modern nepal is not old n it is very much clear to everyone on its territorial n social formations. the issues r not that sum elites studied high n far which deserved them most of the positions but about thier competencies, morality and responsibilities in given positions. n merit based is just bulshit, they all engage is high nepotism which r inluenced by either their relationship or through corruptions. the major reason is the national policy, it highly attributes the cultural and religious backgrounds of the elites or so called ruling class only. a tharu dude or magar from rolpa can never feel the national pride under such system cause they r more like aliens in thier native land since their social living values n beleifs r totally different from the one articulated by the vague codes of nationalism. myself being the confiderates of kiratis never felt it represents me n my communities sentiments, the whole policy n systems r in fault that does not represent all of nepal's population. the theory is very simple in how rebellion grows. good thing they realized the need of secularism but still more corrective measures needs to b done. unless n untill these r corrected n one opts to remain status quoists i guarantee nepal will always hav to face troubles, given the fact that we all r nepalese but we r diverese n hav differences among us that needs to b acknowledged with respects n dignity  not force n suppression.

these bahun politicians are disgrace not only to our country but to bahun cast also. u can hate them all u want, but it is ignorant and racist to bash the whole bahun race because of these corrupt politicians.

कसैले  आफ्नो कम्जोरी देखैदेयो भने कम्जोरी देखौने मान्छे लाई मन्परी गाली गर्न पर्ने? आफ्नो कम्जोरी देखैदेने लाई धन्यवाद दिन मिल्दैन र? कि अङ्रेजी कम्जोर छ भनेर लाज लाग्या हो? मेरो त कुनै भाषा पनि perfect छैन, अब के गर्ने? आफ्नो कम्जोरी स्विकार्न पनि सक्नु पर्छ, अङ्रेजी कम्जोर  हुनु कुनै अपराध त होइन नि, किन डराको?
कुनै बाहुन  नेता बदमाश भयो भन्दै मा सबै बाहुन लाई गाली गर्ने हरु लाई एउटा उदाहरण दिने मन लाग्यो। डिमोक्रेसी आउनु भन्दा पहिला नेपालमा राजा र प्रधानमन्त्री हरु छेत्री थिए (हिन्दू कास्ट निएम अनुसार शाह र राणा हरु पनि छेत्री हो क्यारे) अब २४० भन्दा बढी बर्ष सम्मा तिनिहरुले शासन गरे र् नेपाल मा प्रजातन्त्र आउन दिएनन, बिकास गरेनन आफैले ले मात्र मोज गरे  भन्दैमा अहिले को नेपाल को सबै छेत्री हरुलाई हामीले दोश दिने?? नेपालको डार्क ऐज को लागि हिजो  आज का छेत्री हरु लाई गाली गर्ने हो कि? त्यसरी अरु  लाई दोश  दिने भने हाम्रो बनी नै पो दोशी हो कि? कती राम्रो बाद्बिबाद  भैराखेको थ्यो गालीगलोज सुरु गरेर। गाली गर्नु भन्दा अलिकती रचनात्माक बाद्बिबाद गरुम न साथी हो। हामीले यो जतिबादी सोचाइ छोड्न धिल भैसक्यो।

timi mero sathi,

i think u are mistaken about kings being chettri. well, history says kings are decendents of magars not chettris. correct me if i am wrong.

 

i personally condemn the system not race in particular or individuals. no one is jealous here on who studied higher n who went to play marbles, it is about the state policy favourable to sum and not to others. n the fact is it is highly influenced by ethnic cultural n religious background, as sum scholar puts it as 'khas chauvinist' in nepal. n FYI now chettris hav put up an application n r demanding to b included as janjatis which is being reviewd n is under investigation by high level taskforce led by dr om grg wether they qualify or not. this proves the power n importance of ethnicity n how state should treat them with uniformity. we r in high tranformational phase  which might not b very acceptable to few. i say fasten ur seatbelt for more radical changes. also, if there were no such awareness n end of monarchy i guarantee that current COAS chattraman grg would had been already made to resign n instead b replaced by sum one with elite royal family background or strong allegiance to royals.

What I read in a book called " The Mongols" Shah dynesty is come from Iran ( then persia) when it came under attack during the rise of the mongols led by genghis khan. The persian ruler shah then fled to India and set up Mogul empire there and remnants of their relatives entred Nepal.

Politically experienced shah then conquered the western part of nepal which was then ruled by Magars.They gradually integrated themselves into humble magars and finally stuck a knife into their heart politically. According to nepalese history we all know that Drabya shah won the race and became the king of gorkha but I personally believe that the fact is not told. If you read the book called " The hidden facts in nepalese politics" you can find some facts what happened then.

It is widely believed that the Nara bhupal shah ( father of prithivi narayan shah) had  magarni mistress and prithivi narayan shah was born to her.

summery: Shah and Rana ( chetri) are modern iranian family names and I personally dont believe that they are decendents of  magars.