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Lamokhau
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Posted on 06-16-11 12:20
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@Gabbar SIngh
My bad on calling your name out, sorry. But, apart from me, I don't see anybody else asking to stop the mockery of the speech..do you? So I assumed the comments were for me, a sound assumption if you ask me. And by the way, I am not a maoist. I am not any -ist.
You said, "The only thing I want to express again is a minister like such bastard lady could not lead the country."
That's your opinion and looks like most over here. I really don't know this lady so I cannot make any counter point on this; I do realize that many, if not most, mantris and MPs in our country are not qualified. My point is that the hatred stems from this very fact, we are not accepting them as our leaders; why not keep it that way instead of humuliating her for her speech, that's all I am saying.
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Stiffler
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Posted on 06-16-11 12:24
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@Nalapani
I know what you're saying and I laughed at the speech myself and maybe cringed a little. But I don't want to belittle her for that handicap she has. Few friends I know have horrible accent, I am not going to tease them for that.
Again, I am not defending her about her qualifications, I am just saying DO NOT MOCK ANY PERSON SO HATEFULLY FOR THEIR LACK OF SKILL on certain things. Try to understand what I am defending here and you might rethink your position.
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Gabbar Singh
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Posted on 06-16-11 12:30
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@ Stiffler: Liked ur clarification. Tell me truthfully if you want such lady to be ur leader, irrespective of any caste or party...And I am more inclined towards Maoists (negatively) coz they still think they can be superior by intimidating or killing people which could be easily observed by the statement of their leaders that contrues they will not let go their weapons. What does that mean??? Don,t u think so?
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Posted on 06-16-11 12:39
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It would have been better with a translator......PERIOD!!!!!!...END OF DIscussion....
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jay-z
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Posted on 06-16-11 12:39
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Seriously, the speech should have been posted on Dhwase's ![](http://sajha.com/wysiwyg/editor/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif) thread, coz she was such a big JOKE
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NALAPANI
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Posted on 06-16-11 1:53
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Jay-Z, what a comment !!! .............................hehehe.............you made my day dude....!!!!
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catch_meh_if_u_can
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Posted on 06-16-11 5:50
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Posted on 06-17-11 2:00
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I heard one day Prachanda said that our assembley is based on WEST MINISTER model.
LetsCompare Nepal's parliament with Britains West minister
- Nepal has about 600 members in the assembly. 300 elected and about 300 nominated. The people are nominated in the name of proportional representation. Proportional representation gives easy route to assembly through the back door especially to the people who lost the election. There is no miniumum criteria of education to be member.
- Britain's west minister has HOUSE OF COMMONS consisting of elected people... and HOUSE OF LORDS consisting of nominated people (similar as nominated people in Nepal but not from any party). House of lords consists of top people, sportsman like lord sabastian coe, top industrialist like richard branson and alan sugar, top doctors, engineers, lawyer etc .
Just compare that to nepal. Nepal assembly has killers, diplomatic passport sellers, some members slaps public servants, some are found in brothel, some carry guns, , some are even found stealing electicity in their home from the street wires. how pathetic is that? Forget about being ministers. These people don't even have mandate. They have already lost mandate one year earlier.
Now they are self extneding their term. And I feel we nepali people are somewhat fool that we are demending consitution from these people. Even if constitution is made, nothing will happen, same people will rule. In last two year nobody seemed to be demanding about health, roads, medicines etc. Britians dont have written consitution. All we nepali do is to rant about CONSITUTION. We have spent millions of dollars each month in so called consitution when people in KARNALI are dying because of lack of rice which does not cost millions. Does consitution is really our priority? I really don't think so. 30-40,000 rupees goes to this 600 assembly member each month. Add to that out of 600....over 200 have already been to foreign visit . The expenses of each members comes out to be over 50,000 each month. 18-20 corores goes each month in the name of PLA to maoist party. Those PLA bhustigre.............sit in the camp has been an easy cash cow for maoist.
isn't it a sad state? We will never have britains like house of lords because all the parties would want their party to be nominated.
AND COMING BACK TO THE SPEECH. That woman is bastard. Whoever makes fun of nepal is bastard. Why is anybody trying to defend the indefensible.
These ministers get chance to go to new york. So rather than sending any doctors , intellectuals....or even anuradha koirla who have first hand experience in dealing with thousands of AIDS victims in nepal she goes herself. She knows nothing about HEALTH.
Such is a health minister of nepal. Forget about being nervous or anything. Anybody can make out she knows nothing about health sector in nepal. Its not about accents. All the people in the world have accents. But going into such a big platform, Nepal should have made sure that they made their voice heard and understand. And being HEALTH MINISTER....IT WAS HER DUTY TO SELECT RIGHT PERSON.................But she wanted to see the Big apple.............which left big egg in our face.
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Posted on 06-17-11 5:39
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yetikai nepal bigreko cha..... yestai maanchey haru mantri chan nepal ma.... ali padeko maanchey bahye po naya naya koora aaucha dhimaag ma... sadai karaudai bhaasan didai hidera kaah huncha... n yeah abt speech its horrible.... afno desh lai repesent garda carefull hunu parcha neee..... nepal ko sabai mantri selfish chan... aafno barema soch chan... desh barema ta ghanta dincha ini haru le.... kasari tikeka chan yesta ghanta mantri haru... comment na garum bhaneko.. could not hold on to my thoughts.... yesle tah purai nepal ko padai ko para dekhaayo.. ghokantey..... just j lekheko cha tei kharara padyo tara sodhyo bhaney.. what does it mean bahnera sodhyo bhaney.. k hee aaudaina........ abha Yesta mantri haru le k nepal ko constitution banau la.. yesle jasari boldai cha video ma tesari nai hola... adddkii addkii.. yo aarko 3 months ma neee bahdaina.... Save our Nepal....
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sidster
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Posted on 06-17-11 11:05
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It is little unfair to compare Rajesh Hamal's english with someone who probably grew up doing " Ghaas Daura" in village. Nothing against Rajesh Hamal....i have not seen a single movie by Rajesh hamal but from few of his interview one can tell that he has an excellent profienciency in english language. He is probably one of the most intelligent person in Nepali movie industry. Thanks for the video above....the GUY has an excellent insights and communicating skill.....I can compare this interview to Naseerudhin Shah's interviews. I just wish he would some of the non mainstream movies....and show his skill. I think he can act as well given the right story, script, and a director.
Coming back to the Mantri's accent, let me just say that the accent is horrible, no one should be ashamed of bad accent but bad language is something everyone should be ashamed of. I bet many who are making fun of the Mantri on this board themselves do not have skills in speaking their mother tounge. The point is, we have no shame in not speaking the language (any language) correctly. It does not have to be ENGLISH.......how many of us really are ashamed of not being able to speak Nepali properly??? may be non....but if someone is not able to speak English properly...it becomes a joke.
I have also noticed that us the southasians do measure one's proficiency in english langauage as an academic acomplishment. If one speaks good english he is automatically an intellect. I do not think language is a measurement of your intelligence or wisdom. One who learns English and becomes fluent is nothing less than the other who learns maithali and becomes fluent in it. But we seem to consider the one with better English more intelligent and competant than the one who learned Maithali. We also see those folks in the parties who try to show their class by speaking English. The point is, it is wrong to judge someone's intelligence based on how well their english is.
But this Mantri's problem is just not English. I also think she was nervous and not confident. Even if the speech was in nepali...she probably would have delivered it with the same pauses and breaks. She probably is not a good reader either. The secretaries are laughing when she is delivering the speech. Pangu nai pangu ko rajya bhaye pachi yestai ho....these are the things that could have been done to avoid the disaster and none of them were done...
Getting an ambassador like Anuradha Koirala to deliver the speech
Getting one of the secretaries to do it
Writing the english words in nepali and saying it
Reading it in Nepali and handing out English copies to the listeners
Reading it in Nepali and using a translator
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Posted on 06-17-11 1:19
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राजेश हमालको अन्तर्वार्ता राम्रो लाग्यो, तर ती मंत्रिनिको बोलि पनि तेती खराब त लागेन है मलाई त! अमेरिका धेरै बसेकाहरुको पनि अलि लाज लाग्दै खालको बोलि देखिन्छ! मंत्रिनिको गाउँ घरको इस्कुल तिरको पढाई होला, तर तेती हुँदा हुँदै पनि येत्तिको बोलेकोमा 'कुडोस!' गर्न पर्छ. बोलाइ भन्दा बरु 'कन्टेन्ट' अलि सुधारेको भए हुन्थ्यो!!
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Phiste
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Posted on 06-17-11 3:52
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I will be more concerned about what she is doing for our contry rather than just judging her by her english accent. Aaaksh nai khasla jasto nagarda huncha sathi ho. I am sure most of the people in our country have that accent. If you go to the government school even the English teachers have that kind of accent.
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Phiste
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Posted on 06-17-11 4:06
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"He has an excellent proficiency in english language. He is probably one of the most intelligent person in Nepali movie industry." Sidster I think you also have the same misconception like the poster. Good in English doesn't make one intelligent. I think its not only you, we all from that part of the world have that kind of misconception.
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Posted on 06-17-11 4:22
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Some people are so blind that they do not feel ashamed to refuse the thing that is appearing right infront of thier eyes. This is the prime reason why our country is so so behind in every fronts.
Some one above gave her " Kudos" perhaps without knowing the meaning of it, someone above is more concerned what she is doing back home. Only true idot will not be able to judge her personality and capacity if he watche 2 min of this video. The point is not about engish accent, the point is about your intellectual ability, the point is about knowedge on the subject matters, the point is about preseting your country in front of world leaders..I can go on and on, if she can not speak a word, and then forget about her dealing and negotiating infront of other world leaders. It is a matter of self judgement than being over confident or be excited about being in UN hall in NYC. I am pretty sure for her getting an oppurtunity to see AMERICA is the bigger achievement than anything.
Proficiency in english is not important, but basic communication, interpersonal skills, presentations skills in world forum is desirable. Tell me where am I being unfair to her?
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Posted on 06-17-11 4:45
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Phiste,
".....If you go to the government school even the English teachers have that kind of accent. "
लेख्न पायो भन्दैमा जे पनि लेख्दिने ? यहाँ accent को होइन |शब्द हरु सामान्य तरिका ले बुज्न सकिने गरी त बोल्न पर्छ | एतिको अङ्रेजी त सरकारी स्कुल मा एस.एल.सी मा ४ चोटि लगएर थर्ड दिभिजन मा पास भएको ले पनि बोल्छ |
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Gabbar Singh
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Posted on 06-17-11 4:48
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@ Kanchu:
Only Maoist supporter thinks she is okay...Anyone but Maoists know the truth/fact that she is not eligible to speak in such forum. She lacks aptitude of presenting even in Nepali....she is just a waste/rubbish.....I showed this video to few Americans and other international friends and they could not stop laughing. I know that some people here might bark about why i did show such video to other nationals when you knew that it was so worse but I did. Period. Maobadi ko neta ta yesto chha yiniharu ko kathputali kasta holaan?
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Posted on 06-17-11 5:31
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Kanchu! It may make very little sense to shed some light in your doubt that understanding what kudos meant was a big deal. Your were responding to my posting because it did not contain that required English flair so that you could unconditionally approve of. If English fluency meant anything at all, King Birendra, Sharad Chandra Shah, Pashupati Shumsher and Kamal Thapa would have rendered Nepal into Switzerland decades ago.
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Posted on 06-18-11 1:58
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its not about accent or poor english. she looks so inconfident, poor prepared n overall she has no clue what she is talking about. yesta pani mantri dhet.
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Posted on 06-18-11 7:54
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हेर जाठाँ जठिँ हो याँहा भको केहि होइन मन्त्राणीले यी कत्तीन पढेलेखेका भनौदा सचिब जाठोहरुलाई भुत्रो नि अङ्रेजी मा भाषण गरेर हिरो हुन दिनू हुन्न बरु आफै पटाँङपुटुङ पारे यि जाठोहरुलाई केिह प्रुभ गरिहािलन्छ कि भनेर यस्तो गर्या भन्ने हाम्लाइ लायाछ।
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Posted on 06-18-11 8:53
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Phiste,
"He has an excellent proficiency in english language. He is probably one of the most intelligent person in Nepali movie industry."
The key here is " Nepali movie industry". I am not calling him intelligent because of how well he can speak english. I am calling him intelligent based on this intelligent answers. Just you tube some of his interviews in English and Nepali and you can see him deliver his insights that are avove par for Nepali Movie Workers.
For the others who think why someone like the Mantrani is a leader in Nepal.....The reason is that there are lots of people in Nepal who feel better at someone like Mantrani representing them. They would rather vote the Mantrani over Prakash chandra Lohani, Baburam Bhattarai or Ram Sharan Mahat. So to ask why do we have leaders like the Mantrani is quite immature when 70 %- 80% of people are like the Mantrani. The same reason why Sarah Palin is so popular in US. She has lots of critics but she also has whole bunch of followers who can see russia from their house along with her.
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